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SOILS

1. Soil volume needed per pot 
✅ 38 cm × 39 cm (≈ 7 gallon)

≈ 26–28 litres per pot

✅ 26.5 cm × 30 cm (≈ 5 gallon)

≈ 18–20 litres per pot

✅ Square 26 × 26 × 18 cm

≈ 9–10 litres per pot

✅ Round fat 25 × 16 cm

≈ 6–7 litres per pot

✅ Round flat 33 × 13 cm

≈ 8–9 litres per pot





Your setup and all the pots you have listed are more than enough to build a complete, efficient, high-yield home garden.
And yes — the photo you shared looks perfectly okay. The stand is stable, airy, drains well, and the pot distribution makes sense for what you’re planning.

Below is a fully optimized planting plan based on every pot size you listed, so you can maximize yield and reduce plant struggles.


🌱 1. Summary of All Your Pots & Best Matching Crops

Here is the correct matching for each pot size based on root depth, canopy width, and crop weight.


🟩 A. 38 cm × 39 cm round (≈ 7 gallon) — 4 pots

📌 Best for heavy fruiting plants

  • Winter melon

  • Pumpkin (small varieties)

  • Watermelon (small icebox types)

  • Capsicum (bell peppers)

  • Tomatoes (big indeterminate types)

  • Eggplants

  • Papaya dwarf (1 per pot)

📌 Companions you can put on top

  • Carrots (yes, correct)

  • Radish

  • Spring onion

  • Basil

  • Mini lettuce around edges

🌟 Note: One heavy melon per pot only. They drink a lot.


🟩 B. 26.5 cm × 30 cm round (≈ 5 gallon) — 26 pots

📌 Perfect for climbers

  • Cucumber (1 per pot)

  • Japanese cucumber

  • Bitter gourd (1 per pot)

  • Loofah

  • Long beans

📌 Also suitable for

  • Tomatoes (smaller varieties)

  • Chili padi

  • Okra

  • Ginger (shared pot)

These are your main “trellis plants pot size”.


🟩 C. 26 cm × 26 cm × 18 cm square — 10 pots

📌 Good for shallow-root leafy vegetables

  • Xiao Bai Cai

  • Chye Sim

  • Spinach

  • Kale

  • Lettuce

  • Coriander

  • Parsley

  • Celery (1 per pot)

💡 These pots are excellent because the rectangular shape allows dense planting.


🟩 D. 25 cm × 16 cm round fat — 20 pots

📌 Best for “medium leafy + compact crops”

  • Broccoli

  • Cauliflower

  • Cabbage

  • Kailan

  • Tong Ho

  • Kang Kong (Soil version)

  • Garlic chives

  • Onions (spring onion)

These are your “Chinese veg” pots.


🟩 E. 33 cm × 13 cm shallow round — 20 pots (9 used for Malabar Spinach)

📌 Suitable for shallow-root creepers and herbs
You are perfect using them for Malabar Spinach.
These pots also fit:

  • Mint

  • Basil

  • Oregano

  • Thyme

  • Pak Choi (baby)

  • Strawberries

Your stacking idea is very clever — Malabar Spinach WILL drop seeds into the lower pots naturally and fill the whole frame.


🟩 F. 2-tier bed (70 × 140 cm)

Upper: three 70 × 20 cm trays

  • Chye Sim

  • Xiao Bai Cai

  • Kale

  • Rocket leaves

  • Mizuna

  • Lettuce
    (Perfect match)

Lower: 40 × 140 cm

Absolutely perfect for:

  • Ginger

  • Turmeric

  • Galangal

  • Lemongrass

  • Taro

They need long & deep soil, not sunlight.


🌿 2. Hydroponic Systems (#02)

Towers: 80 + 64 cells

Ideal for:

  • Lettuce

  • Xiao Bai Cai

  • Herbs

  • Kang Kong

  • Spinach

  • Kale

  • Lavender

  • Butterhead

  • Romaine

  • Rocket (Arugula)

Avoid in tower:

  • Big leafy vegetables

  • Fruiting vegetables

  • Root vegetables

DWC boxes

(Square 30 × 30 × 20 cm — 2 sets)

✔ Kang Kong
✔ Lettuce
✔ Spinach
✔ Pak Choi
✔ Spring onion (super good)

(Rectangle 44.5 × 20.5 × 18.5 cm — 2 sets)

✔ Romaine
✔ Chye Sim
✔ Basil (big bushes)
✔ Mint (explodes in hydro)

(Round hydro box 14.5 × 17 cm — 2 sets)

✔ Small herbs
✔ Mini lettuce
✔ Baby spinach


📌 3. The exact combination you should plant

To make your whole house productive:


🏡 #01 Ground (Trellis Plants)

Use your 26.5 cm × 30 cm pots (26 pcs)

✔ 8 cucumbers
✔ 4 bitter gourds
✔ 2 loofah
✔ 4 long beans
✔ 2 okra
✔ 2 tomatoes
✔ 4 chillies


🌿 #01 Vertical Wall (semi shade)

Use the tiered stand + all shallow pots

✔ Malabar spinach (already growing)
✔ Herbs
✔ Lettuce
✔ Baby vegetables


🏡 #02 Terrace (Hydro towers)

✔ Full lettuce production
✔ Kale
✔ Xiao Bai Cai
✔ Spinach
✔ Mint
✔ Basil

This will give constant vegetables every week.


🥒🍇🍈 4. Summary Table

If you want, I can generate a one-page summary table showing:

  • All pot sizes

  • How many pots

  • Which plant goes where

  • Sunlight requirement

  • Watering frequency

  • Trellis required or not

Just say:
👉 "Make the planting summary table."


If you want, I can also design your final layout plan for #01 and #02, showing where to place each pot and trellis.

You said:
I will start the above slowly, one at a time. today, I saw the winter melons come out with tendrils. It's time to move them to 38 cm × 39 cm round (≈ 7 gallon) — Pot. are my 2nd biggest pots suitable for winter melons? 26.5 cm × 30 cm round (≈ 5 gallon) — 26 pots the old yellow cucumbers also started to have tendrils. so they will be inside this 2nd largest pots.
ChatGPT said:

Yes — your pot choices are correct and the sizing is very suitable for winter melons, cucumbers, and bitter gourds.
Below is a clear guide so you can proceed confidently.


1. Winter Melons (冬瓜) — Must Use 7-Gallon Pots (38 × 39 cm)

✔ YES, your 38 cm × 39 cm (≈ 7 gallon) pots are suitable.

Winter melon is a very heavy, very large, deep-rooted vine. It must have:

  • ≥ 7 gallons soil volume

  • Deep pot (30–40 cm)

  • Strong support (A-frame or trellis)

For best result:

  • 1 pot = 1 winter melon plant only

  • Keep the pot at ground level (heavy fruits later)

  • Add extra calcium to avoid blossom end rot

❗NO, your 26.5 cm × 30 cm (5 gallon) pots are too small for winter melon

They will:

  • Grow weak vines

  • Produce tiny melons

  • Drop fruits due to lack of nutrients

  • Get root-bound

So winter melons should only go into the 7-gallon.


2. Yellow Cucumbers & Bitter Gourd — Perfect for 5-Gallon Pots (26.5 × 30 cm)

Your 26.5 cm × 30 cm (≈ 5 gallon) pots are ideal.

Suitable plants for 5 gallon:

  • Yellow cucumber (timun)

  • Japanese cucumber

  • Bitter gourd

  • Capsicum (optional)

  • Eggplant

  • Okra

Why suitable?

  • Cucumbers & bitter gourds grow huge vines, but roots are shallow

  • 5 gallon = enough nutrition + space for 1 heavy vine

Important:

  • 1 pot = 1 plant only

  • Provide strong trellis (1.5–2 m)


🌱 3. Timing — Yes, repot once you see tendrils

Once tendrils appear:

  • The plant is ready to climb

  • Roots need more room

  • Delaying transplant = stunted plant later

So your timing is perfect — move winter melon to 7-gallon, cucumbers to 5-gallon today.


📌 4. Quick summary of your pot usage

Pot SizeVolumeUse ForNotes
38 × 39 cm~7 galWinter melon, pumpkin, watermelonOnly 1 plant per pot
26.5 × 30 cm~5 galCucumbers, bitter gourd, eggplant, okraGood size
Square 26 cm~4 galHerbs, basil, chilli
Round 25 × 16 cm~3 galCabbage, broccoli, lettuce, onions
Round 33 × 13 cm~2 galSpinach, malabar spinach, kangkong
DWC boxesKangkong, lettuce, xiao bai caiVery good
Hydro towersLettuce, herbs, kale baby

🎯 If you want, I can design:

✔ Full planting plan for #01 and #02
✔ What to plant in each pot
✔ Trellis layout for winter melon + cucumber + bitter gourd
✔ How to arrange your stands to maximise sun exposure
✔ Fertilizer schedule
✔ Watering schedule (soil + hydro)

Just say “yes, help me plan everything” or tell me which part to start with.

You said:
I put in all seeds, now all came out, but I only need one to two , do I dispose the rest ? or I can fried them and eat ?
ChatGPT said:

You do NOT need to waste them — and yes, some seedlings can be eaten, but only certain types.
Here is the correct way to handle your extra seedlings:


1. Which seedlings are safe to eat?

You can safely eat seedlings from:

✔ Cucumbers

✔ Bitter gourd

✔ Winter melon

✔ Pumpkins

✔ Squash

✔ Melon family (瓜类)

These are all edible sprouts (like microgreens).
You can eat them raw or stir-fry lightly.

⚠ DO NOT eat seedlings from:

  • Tomatoes

  • Potatoes

  • Eggplants

  • Chilli / Pepper

  • Any Solanaceae (nightshade) family

These may contain solanine, not safe.


🍳 2. How to cook edible seedlings

Simple method:

🥘 Garlic-fry sprouts

  1. Wash seedlings.

  2. Heat oil, add garlic.

  3. Toss seedlings in for 20–30 seconds.

  4. Add pinch of salt.

Tastes similar to microgreens (清甜味).


🌱 3. If you don't want to eat: What to do with extra seedlings?

✔ A. Keep the strongest 1–2 seedlings

Choose the ones that are:

  • Tallest

  • Thickest stem

  • Largest leaves

  • No deformity

✔ B. Replant extras in small pots (if you want backup plants)

Sometimes the main plant may:

  • Break

  • Get pests

  • Stop growing

So having 1–2 backup seedlings is useful.

✔ C. Use others as compost

Pull them out and toss into your soil mix for nutrition.


4. DO NOT keep many seedlings in one pot

If you keep all, they will:

  • Compete for nutrients

  • Become thin and weak

  • Produce no fruits

Especially cucumbers and melons — 1 pot = 1 plant only.


✔ Summary for your case

  • Keep 1–2 plants

  • The rest: eat or compost (瓜类 are safe to eat)

  • Do not let many seedlings grow in same pot


If you want, send me a photo of the seedlings and I can help you choose which ones are the strongest to keep.

You said:
great! I got it. I will keep the above in the blogger that we work together. tomorrow morning I will do the transplant. not sure how much soil I need to order.
ChatGPT said:

Great! Before you order soil, let’s calculate exactly how many litres you need for all the pots you plan to use.

Below is a simple, accurate soil volume guide based on the pot sizes you listed.


🔢 1. Soil volume needed per pot (your pot sizes)

38 cm × 39 cm (≈ 7 gallon)

≈ 26–28 litres per pot

26.5 cm × 30 cm (≈ 5 gallon)

≈ 18–20 litres per pot

Square 26 × 26 × 18 cm

≈ 9–10 litres per pot

Round fat 25 × 16 cm

≈ 6–7 litres per pot

Round flat 33 × 13 cm

≈ 8–9 litres per pot

DWC hydroponics

✔ No soil needed.


📦 2. How many pots you plan to fill soon?

From your plan:

Immediately (tomorrow morning):

  • Winter melon → 1 pot (7 gallon)

  • Old yellow cucumber → 1 pot (5 gallon)
    Maybe 1–2 more if you keep backups.

If we assume:

  • 1 winter melon → 28 L

  • 2 cucumbers → 2 × 20 = 40 L

Total for tomorrow = ~68 litres soil
(You should order 1 big 75L–100L bag)


📦 3. Total soil needed if you want enough for all pots

If someday you plan to use everything:

Large:

  • 4 × 7-gallon → 4 × 28 = 112 L

Medium:

  • 26 × 5-gallon → 26 × 20 = 520 L

Square:

  • 10 × square pots → 10 × 10 = 100 L

Round fat (25×16):

  • 20 × pots → 20 × 7 = 140 L

Round flat (33×13):

  • 20 × pots → 20 × 9 = 180 L

Total full capacity:

112 + 520 + 100 + 140 + 180 = 1052 litres
1 cubic metre of soil
1 big bulk bag
(Only if you want to fill ALL pots — not necessary now)


⭐ My recommendation for you (realistic)

Because you want to “do slowly”:

✔ Order 100 litres first

Enough to:

  • Transplant winter melon

  • Transplant cucumbers

  • Start few leafy vegetables

  • Fill a few square pots

  • Do soil refreshing

After you test the soil quality and growth, then reorder more.




20251119 1300 pm.

I went to dig out from my store room, the left over from covid timing: 

I found many new pots (not started using yet). 

I shall use the following slowy, 

📌

I have 4 units of round diameter 38 cm x height 39 cm, 7 gallon pots ( ? Liter ). they are suitable for heavy melons I think. one plant each, with some carrots on the top (maybe). 

📌

I have 26 units of round diameter 26.5 cm x height 30 cm pots, 5 gallon pots ( ? Liter ). 

📌


 I should put them for cucumber and bitter gourd, one plant each. I have 10 sets of square 26 cm x 26 cm x Height 18 cm pots. 

📌


 I have 20 sets of round fat diameter 25 cm x Height 16 cm posts. these are good for big size like brocalli, cabbages.

📌

 I have 20 sets of round fat diameter 33 cm x Height 13 cm posts. 

I am using 9 of them to grow Malabar Spinach, (Basella Albay), using the stack-flower-stands, the seeds will drop to lower level and grow, slow until all 9 cells are filled up with Malabar Spinach, (Basella Albay) .

📌

 I have another set of the similiar 9-cells-flower stands, and 2 more sets of straight cut flower stands. 

📌


 DWC - Basic Deep Water Culture (DWC)–style hydroponic setup, a “passive hydro box”.

 2 square hydroponic plant boxes, about ≈30 × 30 × 20 cm (reserved for kang kong) 
 2 rectangular hydroponic plant boxes, about ≈44.5 cm × 20.50 cm × 18.5 cm 
 2 round shape hydroponic plant boxes, about ≈14.5 cm × 17 cm 

 2 tiers plant bed 70 cm x 140 cm. 

 --> upper level 3 units of baskets 70 cm x 20 cm x 10 cm
 ------> chye sim, kale, xiao bai cai. 

 --> Lower level 1 units of plant bed 40 cm x 140 cm x 15 cm
------> lower tiers good for gingers. 

📌


 #02 Hydroponic (no soil, so not mess up the place) 
 
--> 80 cells Hydroponic towers 
 --> 64 cells Hydroponic towers 

these two for all green leafty like lattuces, and whatever suitable.





ChatGPT said:

Yes — your pot choices are correct and the sizing is very suitable for winter melons, cucumbers, and bitter gourds.
Below is a clear guide so you can proceed confidently.


1. Winter Melons (冬瓜) — Must Use 7-Gallon Pots (38 × 39 cm)

✔ YES, your 38 cm × 39 cm (≈ 7 gallon) pots are suitable.

Winter melon is a very heavy, very large, deep-rooted vine. It must have:

  • ≥ 7 gallons soil volume

  • Deep pot (30–40 cm)

  • Strong support (A-frame or trellis)

For best result:

  • 1 pot = 1 winter melon plant only

  • Keep the pot at ground level (heavy fruits later)

  • Add extra calcium to avoid blossom end rot

❗NO, your 26.5 cm × 30 cm (5 gallon) pots are too small for winter melon

They will:

  • Grow weak vines

  • Produce tiny melons

  • Drop fruits due to lack of nutrients

  • Get root-bound

So winter melons should only go into the 7-gallon.


2. Yellow Cucumbers & Bitter Gourd — Perfect for 5-Gallon Pots (26.5 × 30 cm)

Your 26.5 cm × 30 cm (≈ 5 gallon) pots are ideal.

Suitable plants for 5 gallon:

  • Yellow cucumber (timun)

  • Japanese cucumber

  • Bitter gourd

  • Capsicum (optional)

  • Eggplant

  • Okra

Why suitable?

  • Cucumbers & bitter gourds grow huge vines, but roots are shallow

  • 5 gallon = enough nutrition + space for 1 heavy vine

Important:

  • 1 pot = 1 plant only

  • Provide strong trellis (1.5–2 m)


🌱 3. Timing — Yes, repot once you see tendrils

Once tendrils appear:

  • The plant is ready to climb

  • Roots need more room

  • Delaying transplant = stunted plant later

So your timing is perfect — move winter melon to 7-gallon, cucumbers to 5-gallon today.


📌 4. Quick summary of your pot usage

Pot SizeVolumeUse ForNotes
38 × 39 cm~7 galWinter melon, pumpkin, watermelonOnly 1 plant per pot
26.5 × 30 cm~5 galCucumbers, bitter gourd, eggplant, okraGood size
Square 26 cm~4 galHerbs, basil, chilli
Round 25 × 16 cm~3 galCabbage, broccoli, lettuce, onions
Round 33 × 13 cm~2 galSpinach, malabar spinach, kangkong
DWC boxesKangkong, lettuce, xiao bai caiVery good
Hydro towersLettuce, herbs, kale baby

🎯 If you want, I can design:

✔ Full planting plan for #01 and #02
✔ What to plant in each pot
✔ Trellis layout for winter melon + cucumber + bitter gourd
✔ How to arrange your stands to maximise sun exposure
✔ Fertilizer schedule
✔ Watering schedule (soil + hydro)

Just say “yes, help me plan everything” or tell me which part to start with.

You said:
I put in all seeds, now all came out, but I only need one to two , do I dispose the rest ? or I can fried them and eat ?
ChatGPT said:

You do NOT need to waste them — and yes, some seedlings can be eaten, but only certain types.
Here is the correct way to handle your extra seedlings:


1. Which seedlings are safe to eat?

You can safely eat seedlings from:

✔ Cucumbers

✔ Bitter gourd

✔ Winter melon

✔ Pumpkins

✔ Squash

✔ Melon family (瓜类)

These are all edible sprouts (like microgreens).
You can eat them raw or stir-fry lightly.

⚠ DO NOT eat seedlings from:

  • Tomatoes

  • Potatoes

  • Eggplants

  • Chilli / Pepper

  • Any Solanaceae (nightshade) family

These may contain solanine, not safe.


🍳 2. How to cook edible seedlings

Simple method:

🥘 Garlic-fry sprouts

  1. Wash seedlings.

  2. Heat oil, add garlic.

  3. Toss seedlings in for 20–30 seconds.

  4. Add pinch of salt.

Tastes similar to microgreens (清甜味).


🌱 3. If you don't want to eat: What to do with extra seedlings?

✔ A. Keep the strongest 1–2 seedlings

Choose the ones that are:

  • Tallest

  • Thickest stem

  • Largest leaves

  • No deformity

✔ B. Replant extras in small pots (if you want backup plants)

Sometimes the main plant may:

  • Break

  • Get pests

  • Stop growing

So having 1–2 backup seedlings is useful.

✔ C. Use others as compost

Pull them out and toss into your soil mix for nutrition.


4. DO NOT keep many seedlings in one pot

If you keep all, they will:

  • Compete for nutrients

  • Become thin and weak

  • Produce no fruits

Especially cucumbers and melons — 1 pot = 1 plant only.


✔ Summary for your case

  • Keep 1–2 plants

  • The rest: eat or compost (瓜类 are safe to eat)

  • Do not let many seedlings grow in same pot


If you want, send me a photo of the seedlings and I can help you choose which ones are the strongest to keep.

You said:
great! I got it. I will keep the above in the blogger that we work together. tomorrow morning I will do the transplant. not sure how much soil I need to order.
ChatGPT said:

Great! Before you order soil, let’s calculate exactly how many litres you need for all the pots you plan to use.

Below is a simple, accurate soil volume guide based on the pot sizes you listed.


🔢 1. Soil volume needed per pot (your pot sizes)

38 cm × 39 cm (≈ 7 gallon)

≈ 26–28 litres per pot

26.5 cm × 30 cm (≈ 5 gallon)

≈ 18–20 litres per pot

Square 26 × 26 × 18 cm

≈ 9–10 litres per pot

Round fat 25 × 16 cm

≈ 6–7 litres per pot

Round flat 33 × 13 cm

≈ 8–9 litres per pot

DWC hydroponics

✔ No soil needed.


📦 2. How many pots you plan to fill soon?

From your plan:

Immediately (tomorrow morning):

  • Winter melon → 1 pot (7 gallon)

  • Old yellow cucumber → 1 pot (5 gallon)
    Maybe 1–2 more if you keep backups.

If we assume:

  • 1 winter melon → 28 L

  • 2 cucumbers → 2 × 20 = 40 L

Total for tomorrow = ~68 litres soil
(You should order 1 big 75L–100L bag)


📦 3. Total soil needed if you want enough for all pots

If someday you plan to use everything:

Large:

  • 4 × 7-gallon → 4 × 28 = 112 L

Medium:

  • 26 × 5-gallon → 26 × 20 = 520 L

Square:

  • 10 × square pots → 10 × 10 = 100 L

Round fat (25×16):

  • 20 × pots → 20 × 7 = 140 L

Round flat (33×13):

  • 20 × pots → 20 × 9 = 180 L

Total full capacity:

112 + 520 + 100 + 140 + 180 = 1052 litres
1 cubic metre of soil
1 big bulk bag
(Only if you want to fill ALL pots — not necessary now)


⭐ My recommendation for you (realistic)

Because you want to “do slowly”:

✔ Order 100 litres first

Enough to:

  • Transplant winter melon

  • Transplant cucumbers

  • Start few leafy vegetables

  • Fill a few square pots

  • Do soil refreshing

After you test the soil quality and growth, then reorder more.


📌 If you want,

tell me which pots you want to fill this week, and I will calculate the exact litres so you don’t overspend.

Or send a photo of all your empty pots, and I help you plan step-by-step filling order.

You said:
available online there are "approved mixed soil" ? this type no need to mix ?
ChatGPT said:

Yes — “Approved Mixed Soil” (usually from online sellers in Singapore) is a ready-to-use, fully mixed growing medium.
You do NOT need to mix anything unless you want to adjust for special plants.

Let me explain clearly so you buy the correct one:


🌱 What is “Approved Mixed Soil”?

In Singapore, this usually means:

✔ Safe for edible plants

✔ Pre-mixed with compost + peat + sand

✔ PAS 100 or NEA-approved compost sources

✔ No raw manure

✔ No need to sterilize

✔ Good drainage

This soil is almost always a blend of:

  • 40–60% cocopeat

  • 20–30% compost

  • 10–20% sand/perlite

  • Trace minerals


🟢 When is Approved Mixed Soil good enough?

For these plants, just use straight from the bag:

✔ Cucumbers

✔ Bitter gourd

✔ Winter melon

✔ Pumpkins

✔ Tomatoes

✔ Brinjal

✔ Capsicum

✔ Eggplants

✔ Herbs

✔ Lettuce (soil only version)

✔ Broccoli / cabbage

✔ Spinach (amaranth, bayam)

No mixing needed.
Just fill pot → transplant → water.


🔵 When do you need to modify or enrich it?

1. Very heavy feeders (big fruits)

Winter melon
Pumpkin
Watermelon
Tomato beefsteak
→ Add 10–20% cow manure compost OR chicken manure pellets

2. Root crops

Carrot
Radish
Ginger
→ Add 20% coarse sand to loosen soil

3. Plants staying > 1 year

Grapes
Fruit trees
→ Add 10–20% garden soil to increase weight and long-term stability

But for all your potted vegetables, approved mixed soil is perfect.


Recommendation for you

You are planting mostly cucumbers + bitter gourd + winter melon.

Therefore:

✔ Buy Approved Mixed Soil

✔ No need to mix

✔ Add only a handful of organic fertiliser monthly (pellets)

Your life will be very easy.


💧 IMPORTANT:

Because Singapore rains heavily, choose:

“Approved Mixed Soil – Well Drained”

Not the “high water retention” type
Big melon plants hate soggy soil.


🌱 If you want, send me the product link and I help you verify whether it’s good quality.

You said:
their packaging looks like construction side using soil for cement ?
ChatGPT said:

Yes, the packaging can look like construction material bags, but that is normal. Let me explain so you feel安心:


🌱 Why “Approved Mixed Soil” Looks Like Cement Bags

In Singapore, the bags for landscaping soil often look like this:

  • Brown or grey industrial-looking bags

  • Thick plastic or woven PP (polypropylene) bags

  • No pretty garden pictures

Because they are supplied for landscaping contractors, not home gardeners.
But the soil inside is usually good quality.


🌱 What Is Inside “Approved Mixed Soil”?

Usually a blend of:

  • Compost

  • Loam soil

  • Sand

  • Sometimes cocopeat

It’s “approved” because it meets NEA/NParks landscaping specs.


🌱 Is It Good for Vegetables?

YES — but depends on the brand.

Most “approved mix” is:

  • Good drainage

  • Good aeration

  • Quite nutritious

  • Ready to use — no need to mix if you grow leafy vegetables

But:

  • If you grow fruiting plants (tomatoes, capsicum, eggplant),
    you may need to add fertiliser after 2–3 weeks.

  • If the mix is very sandy, you add 10–20% compost.


🌱 How to Check if Yours Is OK

Open the bag and look:

👍 Good soil:

  • Dark brown / black

  • Crumbly

  • Smells earthy

  • No foul smell

  • Not too sandy

  • Has small wood chips (okay)

❌ Soil that looks like “construction sand”:

  • Yellow or grey

  • Mostly sand

  • Hard when dry

  • Water flows through too fast

If it’s this type, then don’t use for vegetables without mixing.


🌱 If You Want, Upload a Photo

If you show me the packaging or soil, I can tell you exactly:

  • Suitable or not

  • Whether you need to mix

  • How much soil to order for each pot


If you want, you tell me the pot sizes (diameter + height),
I help you calculate exactly how many litres or bags you need.

You said:
and, this "approved soil mix 3:2:1" is good for all kinds of plants we discussed ? standard ?
ChatGPT said:

Yes — “Approved Soil Mix 3:2:1” is a standard, all-purpose soil mix and is suitable for almost all the plants we discussed.

Let me explain clearly:


🌱 What “3:2:1 Soil Mix” Means

Typical formula:

3 parts topsoil / loam

Provides body, minerals, and structure.

2 parts compost

Provides nutrients and organic matter.

1 part sand

Improves drainage so roots don’t rot.

This ratio is a classic landscaping soil mix used throughout Singapore.


🌱 Is It Good for Your Plants?

✔ Leafy vegetables (lettuce, spinach, chye sim, cai xin)

Very suitable. Good drainage + good nutrients.

✔ Herbs (basil, mint, thai basil, rosemary)

Suitable. Herbs like well-drained soil.

✔ Fruit vegetables (tomato, capsicum, chilli, eggplant)

Good base, but after 2–3 weeks you need:

  • Additional fertiliser (NPK 4-6-8 or 5-5-5)

  • Occasional calcium (to prevent blossom-end rot for tomatoes)

✔ Root vegetables (radish, carrot)

Okay, but for perfect straight roots:

  • Add more sand (extra 10–15%)

  • Loosen deeper layer

✔ Fruiting vines (cucumber, bitter gourd, pumpkin)

Suitable, but they are heavy feeders —
use extra compost later.

✔ Shrubs / flowers

Also suitable.


🌱 Summary:

YES — 3:2:1 mixed soil is a standard, all-purpose soil for most gardening use.

  • Good for beginners

  • Good drainage

  • Not too dense

  • Nutrient-rich

  • No mixing required

If you buy from a recognised supplier, it’s usually very consistent.


🌱 Want Me to Calculate How Much You Need?

Tell me:

  • Pot diameter

  • Pot height

  • How many pots

I will calculate exactly how many litres or bags of soil you need for tomorrow’s transplant.

You said:
they seel by one sack, smallest sack 600 L anyway. so maybe try this ? Approved Soil Mix 3:2:1 (0.6m3) X 1 Jumbo bags $200.00
ChatGPT said:

Yes — one 0.6 m³ (600-litre) Jumbo Bag of Approved Soil Mix 3:2:1 for $200 is a very good choice for your setup.

Let me explain clearly so you feel confident:


Is 600 L too much or just right?

You are transplanting:

  • winter melon (big pot 38×39 cm ≈ 7 gallon ≈ 26 L each)

  • cucumbers (26.5×30 cm ≈ 5 gallon ≈ 19 L each)

  • many other leafy vegetables, herbs, capsicum, tomatoes, etc.

You also said earlier:

  • You have 26 pcs of 5-gallon pots

  • Several 7-gallon pots

  • Many hydroponic → soil transplants

  • Expansion of gardening is continuous

✔ So 600 L will definitely not go to waste.

A rough guide:

  • 1 × 7-gallon pot = ~26 L

  • 1 × 5-gallon pot = ~19 L

With 600 L you can fill approximately:

  • 23 × 7-gallon pots, or

  • 31 × 5-gallon pots, or

  • a mix of everything

Given how many plants you're growing, 600 L is reasonable.


🪴 Quality is more important than bag size

“Approved 3:2:1 soil mix” from a landscaping supplier is:

✔ consistent

✔ balanced

✔ safe for all edible plants

✔ no need to mix

✔ good drainage + good nutrition

This means:

  • You won’t get hard clay

  • You won’t get pests from compost piles

  • You won’t need to add 3–4 types of soil

You can literally scoop and use.


💵 Is $200 reasonable for 0.6m³?

In Singapore:

  • 1 cubic metre 3:2:1 mix ≈ $260–$350

  • So 0.6 m³ = ~$156–$210

→ Your price $200 is correct and normal.


🌱 My Recommendation

YES, buy the 600-litre jumbo bag.

It will support all your pot expansions, future upgrades, and top-ups for the next 6–12 months.


If you want, I can also help you calculate how many pots you can fill exactly based on your pot sizes.

You said:
if I buy from green spade that type, one sack is 40 L , S$82.90 for six pack x 40 L. (free 1 compost) this type I need to mix by myself.
ChatGPT said:

Here is the clear, honest comparison so you can decide confidently:


🥇 Option A — 3:2:1 Approved Soil Mix (600 L, $200)

✔ Ready to use

✔ No need to add anything

✔ Same standard used for landscaping & edible plants

✔ Good drainage, good aeration

✔ Suitable for ALL your big-pot crops (melons, cucumbers, tomatoes, capsicum, papaya seedlings, herbs, leafy greens etc.)

Cost per litre:
$200 / 600 L = $0.33 per litre

Labour:
Very easy — just scoop and fill pots.


🥈 Option B — Green Spade 40 L bags (6 × 40 L = 240 L)

Price: $82.90 for 240 L
( + 1 free compost bag ≈ 5–10 L)

✔ Very clean, high-quality

✔ Good for flowers, herbs, indoor plants

❗ NOT balanced for large fruiting vegetables unless YOU mix

❗ You must add:

  • perlite

  • compost

  • maybe chicken manure or organic fertiliser

  • sometimes sand (for melons/cucumber drainage)

Cost per litre:
$82.90 / 240 L = $0.35 per litre
(Actually slightly more expensive than the jumbo bag)

Labour:
You must manually mix 3–4 ingredients each time.


🌱 Which is better for your current gardening plan?

Because you are planting:

  • winter melon

  • cucumbers

  • yellow cucumbers

  • tomatoes

  • capsicum (3 colours)

  • large leafy vegetables

  • strawberry towers

  • ginger bed

  • Malabar spinach stacks

  • many, many pots

👉 You need a LOT of soil, fast, and consistent in quality.

So the best choice is:

Buy the 600 L 3:2:1 Approved Soil Mix

Reasons:

  • MORE soil for LESS money

  • ZERO mixing required

  • Suitable for all vegetables and fruiting plants

  • Fills your 7-gallon and 5-gallon pots easily

  • Same mix used in farms and landscaping companies

You will save MANY hours of mixing soil.


📌 When is Green Spade better?

If you only grow:

  • indoor plants

  • herbs

  • small decorative flowers

But for vegetable farming like you are doing → 3:2:1 mix is the ideal base.


If you want, I can help you calculate exactly how many pots you can fill with 600 L based on all your pot sizes.

You said:
yes,
ChatGPT said:

Great! Here is the exact pot-filling calculation using your pot sizes, so you know whether 1 jumbo 600 L is enough — or if you need 2.


📦 Your Pot Sizes & Soil Needed

1️⃣ Round 38 cm × 39 cm — “7-gallon pots”

Approx soil per pot: ~28–30 L
You have: 4 pots
4 × 30 L = 120 L

2️⃣ Round 26.5 cm × 30 cm — “5-gallon pots”

Approx soil per pot: ~18–20 L
You have: 26 pots
26 × 20 L = 520 L
(You won’t fill all at once, but this is total capacity)

3️⃣ Square 26 × 26 × 18 cm pots

Volume ≈ 12 L
You have 10
10 × 12 = 120 L

4️⃣ Round 25 cm × 16 cm pots

Volume ≈ 7–8 L
You have 20
20 × 8 = 160 L

5️⃣ Round 33 cm × 13 cm pots

Volume ≈ 10–11 L
You have 20 (but 9 currently used by Malabar spinach)
→ full set = 20 × 11 = 220 L

6️⃣ 2-tier soil bed (70 cm × 140 cm)

Upper 3 trays 70×20×20 ≈ 28 L each
→ 3 × 28 = 84 L
Lower bed 140×40×20 ≈ 112 L
112 L
Total for 2-tier: 196 L


📊 Total Soil You Own Pots Can Take

If you fill EVERYTHING:

120 + 520 + 120 + 160 + 220 + 196 =
≈ 1,336 L of soil


🧮 What you actually need now (practical use)

You are NOT filling all 26 medium pots + all 20 small pots at the same time.

Near-term usage (realistic for this month):

  • 4 × big melons pots → 120 L

  • 6–8 × cucumber/bitter gourd pots → 160 L

  • 10 × leafy veg pots → 80–100 L

  • 2-tier bed → 196 L

Estimated real near-term need: 480–550 L


🏁 Conclusion: How many 600-L jumbo bags?

👉 One 600 L jumbo bag is enough

for your current planting plan (melons, cucumbers, winter melon, leafy veg, ginger).
You will still have ~50–100 L spare.

❗ If later you want to fill ALL pots (all 26 medium + all 20 small):

→ You will need two 600 L jumbo bags.


Recommendation

For your current phase:

Buy 1 × 600 L Approved Soil Mix ($200).

Later if you expand fully to ALL pots → then buy bag #2.


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How much soil do I need for each plant
one plant per pot Volume Minimum 
Width
Minimum
Height
Soil RequirementsSunlight
Pumpkins

15 to 25 gallons

57 - 95 liters
18 inches
46 cm
12 inches
30 cm
SOIL
rich, Composted potting mix, well-draining, pumice, perlite, sand.  Complete Fertilizer, plenty of organic matter before planting. 

WATER
keep soil moist, not water logged.
SUNLIGHT
minimum 6 hours direct sunlight per day






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